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I rode the 1300GS twice and found the seat and Rider Triangle to make for a very, very uncomfortable ride and the power not that much more than my 1250GS. I'm keeping my 1250GS!

The price is pretty absurd in Australia - I'll be waiting until BMW fixes their vario cases before I decide which way I'm going to go, but I don't think I can justify LR's prices.

Love your vids, thanks! I’m just coming up on my first service for the same bike you have. When I got it, I thought the seat was a little firm. As the miles came on it definitely softened and I’m very happy with it. By the way, computers do the buffering, windshields do the buffeting.

Cracking vid

Great video PJ....keep up the good work.

Great video - appreciate the insight, as I'll be getting my GS in a few months (week 34 build). I think I saw the same review video, of the Gilles shift lever. If I hadn't purchased the 719 Option version, I'm pretty sure I'd be buying the Gilles - it looks like a nice bit of kit. Apparently, the shift lever on the 719 actually is made by Gilles.

Great video. You just got a new subscriber 👍

And yet now there is another recall coming. This was what I was told yesterday at my main dealer. Apparently they are going swap the solid state relay for an electromechanical one. One chap had delivered his bike for a service and they were not allowed to give it back to him. I was told they would swap mine during a service I have booked in September. This recall was only issued yesterday.

Very practical review mate, Can you share your thoughts on chigee system

Hello mate bike looks tidy, Do the side R1300 stickers come off or are they lacquered over?

Is there not a Dynamic Pro riding mode on this bike? Dynamic but with the softer Road mode dialled in.

Welcome to the sensible side of action cameras....less frustration.😂 Quality looks great.

I have a Triple Black exactly the same spec as yours except mine has cast wheels. I have also done over 6000 miles. I agree with most of your comments although I have not owned a BMW before and so have no comparison to make with a 1250. I came from a Multistrada V4S and don’t regret the change. Your tyres mystify me though. My bike came with the Anakee’s which I hated because of road noise so I swapped them for the Metzeler Tourance Next 2’s which have now done 5000 miles. The rear only has 2.5 mm left and is squared off terribly. Perhaps the OEM version is harder than the aftermarket? I find the quickshift gear changing to be as good as the Multistrada going up and better going down. Enjoy the Picos, Li went there in April and the roads and scenery are fantastic

Hi. What app were you using please on the road footage?

When you had the rack on how did you find it. I am thinking of getting one and a DUSC top case but I am concerned the rack mounting points are a bit weak?

Great review, just got my new to me R1250 yesterday with these on it and was unsure as always have had hard luggage but I think I’ll give them a go 😉👍

I have the bags and like them. The problem with the satellite bags is solved by using MoskoMoto Mille Pouches, which are better and attach firmly.

I have the Lone Rider panniers and like them. I also have the bottle holders and feel like they could’ve been better designed. They aren’t large enough for some bottles I’d like to carry. However, I’ve never lost a bottle out of them. I only have the latch fitment issue on the right side of the bike. On the BMW GSA, there’s a weld point that can be filed down to improve that. I’d hope LR wouldn’t send out pannier racks with that issue. The latching is a bit fiddly but that seems to get better over time…maybe.

Good video mate. I had the same issues

Perhaps one of the best, most honest reviews I’ve seen on this product. I have been looking to replace my existing panniers and your review was extremely helpful. Thank you.

Thank you! A very honest and thorough review!

Great information for would be buyers. Keep up the good work.

Good honest review, they do suit the bike when it’s loaded as well..

I'm trying to figure mine out still

I have had and have a few issues. First being, reading messages does vocal transcripts. No pref setting possible. Regular timeout errors or connexions to other phones in range, needing reboot. Updates? How to get them apart contacting by mail in china and waiting 48 hours….?? Version number has been exactly the same for supposedly 1 update… not sure I will keep this thing, although when it works, it’s good!

Nice video. Great review. 1 Question. Did you try and use 'Hey Siri' ? Not seen anything on this but would be good if that works too.

I just received my W603 and it has auto-brightness with upper and lower limit settings. Likely needs a sensor not on the 702 for the auto but hopefully the add a manual brightness adjustment for the 702 software (or get yourself a W603).

I'm having a lot of trouble with audio, thanks to your video I just learned about this new fw update that would allow to connect the headphones directly to the iPhone! I immediately contacted Carpuride support to ask for the firmware too, waiting for their response now. Why don't they simply put this in their website, like everyone else does??!?!?!

Thank you. Didi you change the angle of the original BMW mount yo clear the TFT screen?

Thanks man. I have a question, when mounted on the BMW specific bracket, can the screen be equalized at different angles on the ball mount?

Great video and a very good summary. A question! Have you paired the tft screen as well? If so, in what order have you paired the system? Thanks in advance.

Great video. I contacted the support about the toggle. Indeed they had removed the day night toggle with the latest update. And I also share your feelings about using it at night. It is WAY to bright for my taste. To a point where it really is distracting. I really hope this gets addressed. Greetings from Munich Stephan

Good stuff! And I assume the new GS did equally well!

I think the day/night switch is controlled by your phone now right? In my car it’s connected to the lights being on or off, but that does not work here with your phone in your pocket in a tunnel

No cameras on this version I see and clearly no auto brightness

Ay I ask why you aren't using the BMW mount?

How is it during sunny days

Sorry, where did you get the plate you use to attach the navigator to the carpirude?

How readable has the screen been in bright light? Bit concerned as the NITS this tablet puts out is not near what some of the "dedicated" bike tablets do...

Reference my previous comment, the LiFePO4 battery has been fitted to my GSA for 7 months now. I have not had to charge the battery at all during that period and the bike never fails to start instantly. My experience is that fitting this battery has completely eradicated the starting problems and I cannot see any reason why this solution wouldn't solve anyone else's starting problems either👍😉

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can i ask for all three dimensions also with the holder that has been replaced? Thank you ❤

Don't beleive the hype not suitable if you ride in the rain, lets water in and it dies

too big that shit

keep quiet about it

I own a 2019 R1250 GS Adventure which I bought new and I live in Victoria, Australia. I will keep this as short as possible and try and avoid going into any details that readers and fellow owners already know. I have experienced all the starting problems that have been documented by riders around the world for four years. The sudden and unexplained no-start events, the myriad of TFT screen fault messages etc. I do not know if this problem applies to every MY but it certainly applies to MY19, MY20 and MY21 as I have read user complaints online. I have used a total of four AGM batteries in four years, Exide (which caused problems in the first 3 weeks of bike delivery), Deka, Yuasa and SSB, all have been either 200 CCA or 240 CCA batteries. Batteries have always been fully charged and able to pass a load test when the bike failed to start and have been connected to an appropriate charger when the bike has not been in use. So battery problems are not confined to a specific batch of Exide batteries that were factory fitted by BMW when the bike was new. My son has an R1200 GS Adventure, he has used the same AGM batteries, and he has had zero starting problems over the four years that I have owned my bike. Regardless of the healthy status of all four AGM batteries the starting problems have always suggested that a battery power problem existed. Any mature vehicle system does not require changes to valve clearances, or require pushing whilst in gear, or any other unusual or creative change to get the vehicle to start. Does anyone have to do that with their car? Standard comments from BMW dealers have included ‘cannot replicate the fault’ and ‘they all do that’ along with others. Is BMW Motorrad really happy with that state of affairs? It has appeared so. I purchased a GOOLOO GP2000 lithium jump starter, it is small, light, and quick and easy to use. I carry it in my top box and it started the bike every time I needed it to. The bike started instantly and essentially proves that the complete starting circuit is serviceable provided that sufficient cranking power is available. BMW obviously made significant changes (mechanical & electrical) from the R1200 GS Adventure to the R1250 GS Adventure. When making those configuration changes did they carry out a detailed Power Management study under all user operating conditions, in all environments that users operate these bikes in, and over a reasonable period of time to ensure that the starting circuit for instance, from the battery right through to the starter motor and everything in-between, were compatible and actually worked? Only BMW know the answer to that question. I used the GOOLOO GP2000 for many months on many occasions to prove to myself that the starting circuit is serviceable enough to be operated as designed, and as delivered on the bike when it was new. Once I was convinced that the problem was the power source then I researched a safe and more capable alternative. You can research the various chemistries of Lithium batteries yourselves if you wish, I selected Lithium (Li) Iron (Fe) Phosphate (PO4) which is LiFePO4, it’s the safest battery chemistry and fit for purpose. I purchased a SSB Powersport Lithium Ultralite, LiFePO4, LFP14H-BS, 150mm X 87mm x 93mm. The battery came complete with screw on plastic spacers to raise the battery height to suit the motorcycle battery compartment. The bike now enthusiastically starts first time every time, under all conditions and as it should have done when I purchased it in the first place. I finally have the bike that I thought I purchased four years ago. Ignition has improved and all lights and displays have improved. If this problem went away at some production point then what was changed during production and why don’t all users know about it? Prior to starting the bike the ‘My Vehicle’ screen on the TFT display always shows a battery voltage approaching, or at, 13 volts. I have an Ozcharge OC-PRO80L 12 volt 480ma LiFePO4 battery charger which I have not used again since I charged the battery when it was new straight out of the box. As soon as the charger tells you that the battery is fully charged then disconnect the charger. I have a charging pigtail lead fitted to the bike and I check the battery voltage with a meter via this lead before using the bike. The battery voltage is now always between 13.27 volts and 13.30 volts. The most the voltage ever drops in a week or more is 0.01 volts (1/100th of a volt) which is probably due to the bike internal clock and maybe a standby function of the keyless start module. The bike charging system is capable of keeping the battery charged and I will only use the battery charger/maintainer if the battery voltage ever drops below 13 volts which it hasn’t done and so far doesn’t look like it will. You do NOT, and SHOULD NOT, keep the appropriate battery charger/maintainer connected to your bike when the bike is not in use. Do I leave the GOOLOO GP2000 at home? No I don’t as I may meet a fellow R1250 GSA rider one day who is stuck at the side of the road/trail or next to a fuel pump in a service station because his bike will not start.

Many thanks, I have the W502 version, which had old firmware, so I emailed Carpuride they emailed back the the updated firmware, this must be dowbloaded on a SD card no bigger that 32gb, I tired orgianally with a 64GB, but it could'nt read it, works fine with 32GB. Now has option to use audio output ... works perfectly with Iphone & Packtalk bold.Just ordered spare power cable and BMW cable mount, so I can swop it between 2 bikes.

edit: Wish I had purchased the W502B but the W702B works well with the available BMW mount. However, your mount looks more substantial When using a Cardo Freecomn 4X, connect to the phone only to retain all of the Cardo voice and headset controls. You may need to toggle the phone button to activate the interaction with the CarPlay unit.

I've had these 4 years now, lots of use and even a low speed spill. Absolutely tough as old boots, not even a mark after the spill and they protected the bike to boot. The only failure I've had is the elastic bands that tidy the loose strap ends have perished. The bottle holders are brilliant and will happily take a wine bottle or a Yeti drinks bottle.

We need an 32zoll for looking Films. 😂🎉